I dok FNP (fondacija nepostojece piramide) Semira Milozvucnog biljezi posjete advokatskog tima generala ARBiH, Rasima Delica, (od koje je koristi to za nauku?) i onako usput navodi iskustva famoznog jordanskog arheologa, u isto vrijeme je
objavljen tekst bivse Semirove pajdasice, dr. Colette M. Dowell.
Ili, da budemo iskreni, to nije tekst nego strucno nabijanje na krst ove piramidalne ublehe i njenog kreatora. Procitajmo zajedno naijinteresantnije dijelove njegovog sadrzaja i povucimo na kraju rezime.
I was informed of that article when it was first posted; a person who works for Semir and the Foundation translated it and sent it to me. The people who work for Semir and the Foundation know Semir was wrong to write that about us; I have emails from them, Semir has lost their respect.Dakle, neko iz FNP-e je poslao prijevod Semirovog klevetnickog pisma gdji. dr. Dowell. I onako usput saznajemo da je Osmanagic junior izgubio postivanje svojih suradnika. Sta bi to trebalo da znaci? Mozda ono, sto vec mjesecima navodimo: FNP ce na kraju pozderati samu sebe.
As you see in Semir's article, he wrote there was a book exchange --as if that was very important -- as if books were gifts from Kings from other sides of the world welcoming each other. The problem with this statement is there was not a book exchange. Dr. Schoch gave him 3 books upon our arrival; Semir did not have his books there for us. Dr. Schoch eventually bought one book, and then when we were to go to some stone spheres in a creek, Semir was trying to make a case for man made stone spheres and ran to his room and brought back a book about stone spheres and gave it to Dr. Schoch. No, there was no book exchange. We are still waiting for our books.Sta to bi? Semir je opet lagao i nije istina da je razmijenio knjige s dr. Schochom! A pricao je o tome, kao da se radilo o medjudrzavnom sastanku, pri kome vlastodrsci razmjenjuju poklone. Ah, na tako nesto smo se navikli od kada je pocela ova piramidalna ubleha. Dakle, dr. Schoch i dr. Dowell jos uvijek cekaju na Semirove knjige, a on sam je dobio cak tri od dr. Schocha pri njihovom susretu. Koji dzentlmen, ovaj "nas" Osmanagic!
The longer we are without the books, the longer the reports will take. Pa naravno da ce dr. Schoch i dr. Dowell morati da pricekaju na Semirove knjige. Samo, moze se zbilja desiti da to cekanje potraje za, recimo, pola vjecnosti, posto ne postoje strucne knjige, koje je napisao Semir Osmanagic. Njih jednostavno nema. Osim ako je totalno posizio pa istampa one svoje blesave "tomove".
Is this what he wants -- to prolong the reports?
Moze biti da to i zeli. Drzi vodu dok majstori odu.
If the Foundation wants reports and people want reports, and they would like for them to be accurate, maybe they should write to him and tell him he needs to send the books to us so we have them, or write to the Foundation.
Cisto sumnjamo da ce se to desiti. Nema nikakve sanse da ce Osmanagic bilo sta napisati, posto sve napisano moze biti i kritizirano. A kritika je Osmanagicev neprijatelj br. 1.
Mario Gerrusi knows we need the books and said he would have them for us before our departure from Bosnia. Nope.....it didn't happen.
Pa naravno da su ih slagali. I naravno da NIKADA nece ni dobiti te knjige. Pa ne postoje, ljudi moji. Knjiga nema, nije ih nikada ni bilo, niti ce ih ikada i biti. Tacka!
Any books he has published in English would help.
Osmanagic nije htio da prevede ni onu svoju groznu, klevetnicku kritiku na Schochov/Dowellkin racun, a kamoli jos da im pise knjige na engleskom jeziku.
Also, he told me he would find a good English Bosnian- Bosnian English translation book and dictionary as I told him I would have to try to find one. Semir told me he would find one for me. He told me that while we were in Bosnia and last week when we spoke on the phone.
Ah, opet ta obecanja, obecanja, ludom radovanja. Pa zar Semir ne obecava para do krova, valove turista, prosperitet za vjecnost, superiorne civilizacije, monumentalne gradjevine? Sta je Semiru obecati nekakve knjige?
I am not a Dr. of Parapsychology,Dr. Dowell budite zadovoljni sto Vas nije nazvao izdajnicom. Ali, to mu nazalost nije bilo moguce, posto niste bosanskog porijekla. Inace, i Vi bi ste bili na listi za javno spaljivanje na Visocici. Zajedno sa Zilkom Kujundzic, Ivanom Lovrenovicem i ostalim bosanskim naucnicima. Ovako ste zavrsili "samo" kao parapsihologinja. Moglo je biti i gore.
the whole article he wrote is full of deception,
Zar ste to tek sada prokontali? Pa nije samo Semirov clanak kleveta i laz, nego i sav ovaj piramidiJotski projekat.
the kind that I was trying to point out in the information I sent to Greg Taylor about what was going on in Bosnia.
To isto i mi cinimo. Mjesecima pokusavamo skrenuti paznju ljudi na cinjenice da se trose drzavni novci (dakle: nase pare) i da se unistava kulturno blago nase zemlje putem bager-arheologije.
The article Semir wrote was conspired and mal-intended.
Steta sto ne govorite bosanski pa da procitate, sta je sve pisao protiv bosanskih naucnika. Doro ste prosli, posto Vas Sahbaz nije dotakao nesto cvrsce. Jer, Sahbaz je ko macija guza, ko macija guza.
What I wrote about what Dr. Schoch and I were experiencing in Bosnia was written with good intentions to inform you folks on what was going on in Bosnia and what we were learning and experiencing. As you can read in my reports, it was very disturbing; Semir has just proven my point.Sve mi to znamo, samo se niko nije usudjivao da dotakne njegovu alternativnu visost, faraona bosanskog, Semira Nultog. Ali, sve bude i prodje, jer nicija nije do zore...
I did not speak that Bosnia was a backward Country or Nation. I spoke about Bosnia and Bosnians as being lovely people. This is Semir’s way of manipulating people’s minds, it is called propaganda.
Pa to i jeste problem, sto niste pisali nista negativno o Bosni. Da ste kojim slucajem naveli da su bosanski preci iz razdoblja 800-1500 bili seljaci, prostaci i nepismenjaci, sada bi Vam Osmanagic pisao ljubavna pisma i hvalospjeve. Jer, sto se vise blati bliza historija Bosne, to vise sansi da se ovaj narod posalje u Ledeno Doba da krampa za nekim superrazvijenim supercivilizacijama.
Semir should have remained a gentleman
Kako molim? Sta ste to naveli? Osmanagic dzentlmen? Pa nije ni za klosara, a kamoli za dzentlmena.
and not been so quick to defend or create more controversy as it ended up creating a situation that has backfired on him.
Ko ima mocne prijatelje i politicke veze moze i da premlati zenu (kao sto je to ucinio Ivo Miro Jovic sa jednom novinarkom, pa i dan danas bez problema sjedi u Predsjednistvu), a kamoli da pljuje po strancima, koji nemaju isto misljenje kao i on.
He is the one who has lost respect for what he wrote about us.
Greska. Nije on izgubio postivanje tek onda kada je Vas popljuvao, nego kada je nasu historiju prikazao kao nebitnu, prostacku i nazadnu. Vi ste tu samo epizoda na rubu cijele ove price
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He wrote false information in the hopes people would believe him.
O tome mi govorimo vec mjesecima.
I have an interview I am sitting on, but I am waiting. I wish for Semir to be honorable if he means to rule and be the Head of some Foundation (or maybe even Bosnia?).
Vrlo dobro zapazanje. Itekako bi Semke bio prvi vlastodrzac Bosne i njen dozivotni predsjednik. Ali, niko Bosnom nije vladao, pa nece ni on.
His actions reflect on the Foundation, and with the way Semir acts, well, just think about how the rest of the Foundation just might be acting. After all, he is their leader --their role model in some ways.
On je primjer za sve diktatore. Milim glasom te prizivam, a bicem te odvracam od pameti. Krampas za mene, uzimam ti pare iz dzepa i trujem ti mozak. Pogotovo djecije mozgove truje vrlo uspjesno. Ali, nece zadugo. Budite sigurni.
He speaks that it is the people's duty to ignore my comments.
I naravno da jeste to prva i najvaznija obaveza/zadaca/nazovite to kako hocete. Najvaznije je sve ignorirati i iskljuciti mozak. To je ono sto Semir zeli.
The first translations I have there are different words used, now I see in yours there is no "DUTY “ to ignore.........
Trebali ste navesti da je jedan "prvi" prijevod poslan od strane
APWR-a. A sam prijevod je napravio jedan nas stalni citalac sa nickom "
Samo Pitam". Bilo bi lijepo da ste i nas naveli, ali nema problema. APWR je dovoljno poznat, pa moze vrlo lahko da prezivi i bez Vase reklame. Dakle, za sve citaoce: prijevod o kojem govori dr. Dowell je poslao APWR na njenu adresu (tj. na adresu njene sekretarice Angela Praxter). Niti smo dobili niikakav odgovor, pa ni najjednostavniju zahvalnicu. Ali, tako je to. Ovdje se lijepo vidi: I taman da se alternativci/jebivjetri ignoriraju medjusobno, oni ipak pojajvise ignoriraju one, koji ne pripadaju nijednoj frakciji alternativaca, kao sto je slucaj sa APWR-om. Dr. Dowell, jos jednom za vas:
The AntiPyramid Web-Ring Vam je dostavio PRVI I POTPUNO ISPRAVNI PRIJEVOD, kojeg je dobio ljubaznoscu naseg citaoca "
Samo Pitam". Nije nam do titula (a pogotovo ne iz alternativnih ruku), posto je APWR sam sebi dovoljan i biti u ovom malom klubu je ljepse, no imati bilo kakvu titulu ili dobiti zahvalnicu od jebivjetara poput Vas. Ali, kada vec pokusavate biti fair, onda budite do kraja, jer inace ispadate slicniji Semiru Osmanagicu, no sto bi ste to zeljeli da budete.
The first report in Bosnian and the translations I received are different then yours. They included words of duty and words similar to duty..... This is your translation, “ MUST ignore…………..”
Prvi prijevod APWR-a je tacan do kostiju. Nema greske. Nijedne. Uostalom, zna se dobro na sta cilja Osmanagic i sta je "DUTY" njegovih podanika. Ignorancija nauke, mrznja prema naucnom radu, nepostivanje oficijelnih praksi u radu i pisanju. Naprosto: budalesati se do kraja.
Everything I wrote is relevant to the whole picture of what is going on over there in Bosnia with the pyramid situation.
To isto i mi radimo i zato se i ne cudite, sto Vas napada neko, iako niste nista slagali. To je nas APWR-kruh svagdasnji.
I did not write mal-intended comments, rather Semir’s writings are mal-intended.
Koliko puta cete to jos da navedete? Napad je najbolja odbrana. Kada bi smo mi to radili, nebi nas vise ni bilo. Ubleha se napada, razara i unistava istinom. Druge taktike nema. Povlacenje je mozda i majstoriski izvedeno, ali je pobjeda uvijek u drugom pravcu.
It is relevant to the research when we receive information from the Foundation’s staff geologists and archaeologists reporting to us about things that they have experienced and the Foundation continues to advertise otherwise, as the example with the tunnel inscriptions being thousands of years old on that stone and so forth --the entrance to the tunnel .......(they use other web sites to promote news and post photos...)
Shvatite: nema nista naucno relevantnog od strane FNP-e (fondacije nepostojece piramide). Tacka!
Semir’s writing clearly shows you what we had to deal with while we were in Bosnia working with the staff and the Foundation. He makes it very obvious. Dr. Schoch and I have been very patient with Semir. We have both been very honest with him as well. Dr. Schoch explicitly explained the geological processes at work which would cause such formations on the mountains that Semir claims are man made.
To je i problem, sto ste bili strpljivi sa ovim ublehasem. Kakva bolan strpljivost, ljudi Boziji! On je ublehas, prevarant, lazljivac i nestrucni amater. Niti zasluzuje strpljivost, niti nase pare. Ali, i ne cudimo se sto ste bili strpljivi s njim. Alternativci se grizu, ali i miluju medjusobno. Ko biva, mozda je ipak nesto ispod brda? A sada, kada ste dobili svoju porciju od kolege alternativca, konacno ste shvatili da se ne trebaju saditi tikve sa vragom.
I sve ostalo u tekstu sto ste naveli ide na tu adresu: Semir i dalje mantra, baja, brblja....samo odugovlaci raspad svoje ublehe. Otisao mu Hodovic, otisli ste i Vi, dosao neki Jordanac, ali nema fajde od toga. Vide i Visocani da nema neke velike koristi kada prodajes 50.000 T-Shirta, a imas turista da ih mozes na prste pobrojati.
Semir implants in the minds of Bosnians that they are not respected. This is a control mechanism. Semir is acting as the “Chosen” who will bring respect back to the Bosnian people by creating fake pyramids and lead them to believe there was once a great ancient civilization reigning there and they are the descendents of it.
Pa sta ocekivati od covjeka, koji gospodari ruljom naoruzanom krampovima i lopatama? Oni jedva cekaju da ubiju nekoga u ime ove glupe ideje. Od Vatikana do Talibana dobro se zna, da su "moralni cistunci" i "Izabrani" najgori medju ljudima. Krstaski ratovi, islamisticki terorizam, komunizam, fasizam, nacizam...sve je to ista bagra, sa malo drugacijim tekstom, ali istom melodijom. Na svu srecu, Semir Osmanagic nikada nece dospjeti toliko visoko, niti imati toliko moci, pa da moze da komanduje narodnom voljom.
This is Semir’s way of gaining respect for Bosnia, but Bosnia has respect, he is telling Bosnians Bosnia has no respect, he will be the great “Bosnian Indiana Jones” and save Bosnia with fake pyramids. UUUhhhhhhhhh????????
No comment! Sve 100% tacno.
The Bosnians just need to understand about geology, archaeology and past history of their natural surroundings.
Onaj ko krampa, po pravilu ne koristi mozak.
The Bosnians who want to believe in Semir are being exploited for political and financial gain.
Itekako. Sahbaz potrebuje narone mase, njihove glasove i njihovo divljenje. Samo ne potrebuje razborito razmisljanje ljudi, pa nastoji da im drzi mozak iskljucen do daljnjeg.
That is the sadness I was trying to convey, the manipulation, the deception, the scary politics.
To mi vec odavno cinimo. I kako vidimo, vrlo uspjesno. Za razliku od lokalnih novinarcica.
It will be the Bosnian people themselves who will suffer indignity from the mind of Semir and those who are supporting this colossal hoax.
Aaaa, nece Bosanci toliko propatiti zbog toga. Nije to kao pocetkom 90-ih kada su nas bombardirali kojekakvim "mirovnim pokretima", kada su nam dolazili "braca Srbi" poput onog prikrivenog cetnika Rade Serbedzije sa one strane Drine i odrzavali nekakve jebene koncerte da nam oslabe borbenu gotovost, dok su njihovi sunarodnjaci ostrili kame i skupljali oruzje. Proslo je to vrijeme. Kad smo mogli poslati Srbe u tri p.m., poslat cemo i ovog ublehasa. A ono malo zaludjenika medju nama, koji su od dragosti kopali danonocno, ce samo zacepiti zvalje i praviti se kao da nikada nisu ni culi za piramidu. Ne brinite se Vi za Bosnu. Niko njom nije vladao. Niko!
Thus far, I have never read any negative comments about Bosnians, only positive ones and how they stood up such a fight against the Serbs and they are respected for that.
Naravno da se Bosanci mogu ponositi cinjenicom da su na bojnom polju zaustavili cetvrtu armiju Evrope (u to vrijeme cetvrta u Evropi, post sada Srbi nemaju sta da jedu, a kamoli da imaju efikasnu armiju...uz to ih je NATO 1999 katapultirao jedno 80-ak godina unazad, pa sada treniraju da "jedu korijenje", kako su im njihovi vodzovi sugerirali pocetkom 90-ih. Ugodan apetit im zelimo s one strane Drine, a i ovim domacim srpskim kvislinzima u Republici Svinjskoj isto tako.)
When reading Semir’s reports and how he speaks to Bosnians, I have visions of Hitler and how he spoke. Oh, my, it is all too familiar. I think Semir must have read up on Hitler and his strategies. What is Semir trying to lead Bosnia in to?
Naravno da govori kao Hitler. I ne samo kao on. Dodajte i Mao Ce-Tunga, Staljina i Pol Pota.
Also, we would appreciate it and have a bit more respect for Semir (others would too) if he wrote an honorable statement and retract his comments that are false and misleading to the international public about us. He plays the martyr, respect is not gained in such manner --only by fanatics, not by conscious and professional individuals.
Mozete cekati 5 dana,. 10 dana, 10 godina, ali izvinjenja nema. More bit bidne, ali sada nema. A sto se APWR-a tice, mi odosmo gledati Top Listu Nadrealista.
Semir has the ability to end this negativity now, it is his choice.
To nije njegov izbor, nego njegova zadaca. Da unese pred izbore razdor, svadju i sumnju medju narod. To se zove DEMAGOGIJA sa jakim elementima DEMONIJE!
If he plans to lead the people of Bosnia, he should show some courage and honesty, that will be his strength.
Dokle god je ljudi poput nas, moze samo da sanja o tome.
Continuing with deception, manipulation and lies is a reflection of his aggression – that can be dangerous.
Naravno. Ako nastavi ovako slazima i manipulacijom, itekako moze to biti opasno. Po njega.
Yes, he has a gentle voice and can mesmerize with his charm, that is his tool of deception and he uses it well to win over the hearts of some of the Bosnians, politicians and businessmen.
Ma ne suruje on samo sa bosanskim politicarima. Njemu nije problem ni komunicirati sa izravnim podrzavateljima cetnika iz Republike Svinjske, kao sto je onaj rusko-litvanski oligarh Vladimir Romanov. Cak mu nije neki veliki problem primiti 70-ak Babovaca, bosnjackih izroda, koji su aktivno ucestvovali u klanju svojih sunarodnika i Hrvata iz Bosanske Krajine. Sve ide pod njegovu kapu. Samo neka se vrti para i cirkus ide punom brzinom. Dok ne trehne glavom o zid.
If Semir continues on course as he has been, the Bosnians will suffer great humiliation from a great betrayal; has this not occurred to him? Only time will tell.
Ne, ne, nece Bosancima nista biti. Mi smo prezivjeli i mnogo gore ublehe i prevare, prezivjet cemo i Osmanagica. Pitajte cetnike iz Republike Svinjske, kako im je kada dodju u Federaciju. Osjecaju se kao krmad u Teheranu. Isto tako ce se osjecati i Osmanagic kada sljedeci put sleti na sarajevski aerodrom.